From gevanylo at vt.edu Wed Jul 1 07:08:31 2009 From: gevanylo at vt.edu (Greg Evanylo) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:08:31 -0400 Subject: [USCC] Composting Carcasses in Windrows Message-ID: <200907011209.n61C93XC012234@auth3.smtp.vt.edu> SRMs are certainly serious concerns to the composting industry. I'm not suggesting we take these issues lightly, and composting has not been shown to be effective at inactivating prions in most studies; however, other research has presented some promising results of the effect of composting: http://www.compost.org/pdf/TMcAllister,%20Prion%20Inactivation.pdf; http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1636000 Soil: http://cabiblog.typepad.com/hand_picked/2009/02/the-mighty-prion-may-be-no-more.html greg At 04:30 PM 6/29/2009, Helane Shields wrote: >This is to respond to Ken Powells post regarding composting animal >carcasses and the "SRM issue".. SRM = 'specified risk materials' >- the parts of the animals most likely to contain prion infected wastes: > > > >Many experts, including the US Environmental Protection Agency, say >composting prion infected wastes is futile - the temperatures are >not high enough, the prions survive, and landspreading this >infected compost can put more animals at risk: > >EPA Region 8: "Common methods of waste treatment in sewage >treatment plants, or publicly owned treatment works >(POTWs), and septic systems, as well as landfilling and composting, >are ineffective at completely inactivating TSE >agents (Prusiner 1982; Bellinger-Kawahara et al. 1987; Manuelidis >1997; Taylor 2000; Taylor 2001). . ." > >National Renderers Assoc. response to USDA and APHIS, June >2005: "While finished compost can be spread on crop >ground as fertilizer, if prions are present and the compost is used >as fertilizer prions can re-enter the food chain through grazing >plants and hay and straw obtained from those. Thus, composting >should not be used to dispose of CWD deer and elk, sheep and goats >with scrapie or cattle with BSE. Composting is especially unsuitable >for specified risk materials, especially neural tissues (skull and >spinal cord) encased in bones (ref.11). The indiscriminate use of >composting and spreading its by-products on agricultural land is >inconsistent with the FDA feed rule, would dilute its integrity and >invalidate all existing BSE/TSE risk assessment models (ref.8). This >is similar to what may have transpired with the CWD material, given >the WIDNR disposal policy (refer to 2.3. Controlled Land Fill) was >indeed implemented. " > >Dr. Paul Gale, UK, DEFRA, May 2002: " "BSE and scrapie prions and >C. botulinum spores are excluded because for >the purposes of risk assessment they are considered not to be >affected by the temperatures achievable by composting >and biogas processes." > >Iowa State: " Due to many unknown factors regarding the >biodegradability of the prions that cause bovine spongiform >encephalopathy (commonly called BSE or "mad cow" disease), >composting should NOT be used for disposal of cattle >suspected to have BSE." > >APHIS/USDA - Jan. 2005: Anaerobic digestion (of carcasses ). . . >"it is necessary to use additional heat at the end of >the process to fully inactivate pathogens. However, even with this, >prions are not inactivated." > > >US EPA: "Prions are extremely resistant to inactivation by >ultraviolet light, irradiation, boiling, dry heat, formaline, >freezing, drying and changes in pH. Methods for inactivating prions >in infected tissues or wastes include incineration at >very high temperatures and alkaline hydrolysis. " > > >http://www.sludgevictims.com/pathogens/prions-composting.html > >Further, prions can survive for years in soils, and Dr. Joel >Pedersen,et al, Wisconsin State, found that soil can increase the >infectivity by a factor of 680. > >Helane Shields, Alton, NH > >_______________________________________ >Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & >Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. >The Largest Conference & Exhibition in North America for the >Composting, Wood Waste, & Organics Recycling Industry. The Most >Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical >Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations >at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference Highlights >& Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and Sponsorship >Opportunities available at the USCC website >www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 >_____________________________________________________________________________ >Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com >http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost >_______________________________________ >This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). >(c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved > >Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the >Foundation, or the Board of Directors. > >Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its >website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm > >Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have >their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and >information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other >options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > >For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, >send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org Greg Evanylo Professor and Extension Specialist Crop and Soil Environmental Sciences (0403) 426 Smyth Hall, Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA 24061 Ph: 540-231-9739 Fax: 540-231-3075 Cell: 540-257-4647 gevanylo at vt.edu http://www.cses.vt.edu/people/profiles/evanylo_profile.html From qureshi_1477 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 1 07:26:15 2009 From: qureshi_1477 at hotmail.com (zahida qureshi) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:26:15 +0000 Subject: [USCC] Composting Carcasses in Windrows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: HI COMPOST WORLD Iam doing research on composting of potato,apple,banana and orange peels.in my lab resources are limited so i want to use very simple techniques or simply designed appratus which i can develop myself in my lab.i had run one dumy experiment in jars for duration of one month but i had some difficulties in that experiment.so please can any one help me regarding my experiment??can any one help me in designing simple procedure of composting these peels using simple apparatus?? or can any one give another option of composting someother vegetabl and fruit wastes and the end product of which can be used as soil conditioner... ZAhida Nasreen Punjab University Lahore Pakistan > From: ConSulInc at aol.com > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:48:09 -0400 > To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > Subject: Re: [USCC] Composting Carcasses in Windrows > > Go to University of Missouri/state of Missouri for publications on > composting cattle, hogs, poultry. > Jerry d'Aquin > Con-Sul, Inc. > > > In a message dated 6/29/2009 1:00:11 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > hlandgoatman at gmail.com writes: > > I have been placed in the position of composter at a large dairy farm. I > have the manure and waste feed composting fine in large windrows. I have > been trying this with our dead cows, and I am having problems. Does anyone > have any experience with this, or could point me in the right direction? > > -- > Peace, > Brent Amenell > Assistant Environmental Technician > Heartland Dairy > brent.amenell at hlcommunity.org > _______________________________________ > Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade > Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest > Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & > Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, > Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" > Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference > Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and > Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website www.compostingcouncil.org > or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _ > Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > _______________________________________ > This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). > (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved > > Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, > or the Board of Directors. > > Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website > at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm > > Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their > posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information > regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > > For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a > message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823281x1201398699/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= > JunestepsfooterNO62) > _______________________________________ > Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. 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For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > > For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 From hirschsys at aol.com Wed Jul 1 09:34:09 2009 From: hirschsys at aol.com (Myron Hirschman) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:34:09 -0500 Subject: [USCC] Composting Carcasses in Windrows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001c9fa58$ffb27000$ff175000$@com> Brent What problems are you having? Dairy manure varies widely based on the bedding being used. You may need to bring in ground wood or sawdust to compost your carcasses. Depending on your "windrow" process, you might need to switch to a static pile system for your carcasses. Many comments on this discussion list regarding your request for help have been pertaining to diseases that do not exist in the dairy industry in the US. How many cases of "Mad Cow" were identified last year in the US? Composting is an effective method of bovine carcass disposal in the US and will reduce the spread of most pathogens. Your veterinary would be a great source of information regarding disease destruction for carcasses on YOUR farm. Call or email if I can be of further assistance. Sincerely, Myron Hirschman Myron at hirschsystems.com or 515-229-1025 -----Original Message----- From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of Brent A Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 2:43 PM To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Subject: [USCC] Composting Carcasses in Windrows I have been placed in the position of composter at a large dairy farm. I have the manure and waste feed composting fine in large windrows. I have been trying this with our dead cows, and I am having problems. Does anyone have any experience with this, or could point me in the right direction? -- Peace, Brent Amenell Assistant Environmental Technician Heartland Dairy brent.amenell at hlcommunity.org _______________________________________ Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 ____________________________________________________________________________ _ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org From wiebebh at mts.net Wed Jul 1 11:06:43 2009 From: wiebebh at mts.net (wiebebh@mts.net) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:06:43 -0500 Subject: [USCC] composting carcasses in windrows Message-ID: <20090701160643.BTS17966.mx-02mtaout01.mts.net@wnpgmb021pw-sp03.mts.net> As Helane Shields points out: - research indicates that composting temperatures do not deactivate prions and also that in the soils used in once in soil (although - Iowa State "Due to many unknown factors regarding the biodegradability of the prions that cause bovine spongiform encephalopathy (commonly called BSE or "mad cow" disease), composting should NOT be used for disposal of cattle suspected to have BSE." - and that in the soils used by Dr. Joel Pedersen,et al, Wisconsin State, prions can survive for years in soils, and soil can increase the infectivity by a factor of 680. However, the temperature is not the only potential degradation/deactivation process for prions during composting. They are organic molecules subject to decomposition and this process needs careful study before disregarding composting solely based on temperature. The work of Pedersen is important but since soils are highly variable and extremely complex his results apply to the soils he used (one should never group all soils and assume they will all react the same way). The article you refer to (PLoS Pathogens, July 2007, Johnson et al.) of which Pedersen is a co- author indicates that prions bound to montmorillonite increase oral infectivity by a factor 680. Montmorillonite is not soil it is a pure clay mineral with a very high charge and a large specific surface area and is found in some soils. Montmorillonite is known to protect soil organic matter from degradation by soil microorganisms. In the same article they report using 3 different actual soils and found that 2 out of 3 increased infectivity, the third was equivalent to unbound prions. More recently, "Joel Pedersen, Fabio Russo of the University of Naples and Christopher J. Johnson of UW-Madison, ... and co-authors Chad J. Johnson of the UW- Madison School of Veterinary Medicine, and Judd Aiken and Debbie McKenzie of the University of Alberta .. have found that a common soil mineral, an oxidized from of manganese known as birnessite, can penetrate the prion's armor and degrade the protein. The new finding, ... was reported ...in the Journal of General Virology (Jan. 2, 2009). That being said compost is not soil and compost itself is highly variable depending on feedstocks. Therefore we need work looking specifically at prions and SRM/carcasses during the composting process. One researcher working on this is Dr. Xiying Hao at the Lethbridge Research Station of Agriculture and AgriFood Canada ( haoxy at agr.gc.ca ). I am sure if anyone is interested they could contact Xiying directly and she would be happy to discuss this in more detail. Brian Wiebe Winnipeg, MB From johncossham at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jul 1 14:29:21 2009 From: johncossham at tiscali.co.uk (John Cossham) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:29:21 +0100 Subject: [USCC] Composting Carcasses in Windrows References: Message-ID: Hello Zahida, I have done some small scale demonstration composters for children in a school gardening club. I used clear plastic fizzy pop bottles which I put a few holes in for aeration, and cut off the tops to allow some biodegradable materials to be added. I also made a few drainage holes at the base. Over the following days and weeks, children were able to watch what happened as the stuff rotted down. I kept these outside in a shady place, and on a couple of occasions watered them. Was this the sort of thing you were looking for? John 'Compost' Cossham, York, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "zahida qureshi" To: "Compost Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [USCC] Composting Carcasses in Windrows HI COMPOST WORLD Iam doing research on composting of potato,apple,banana and orange peels.in my lab resources are limited so i want to use very simple techniques or simply designed appratus which i can develop myself in my lab.i had run one dumy experiment in jars for duration of one month but i had some difficulties in that experiment.so please can any one help me regarding my experiment??can any one help me in designing simple procedure of composting these peels using simple apparatus?? or can any one give another option of composting someother vegetabl and fruit wastes and the end product of which can be used as soil conditioner... ZAhida Nasreen Punjab University Lahore Pakistan > From: ConSulInc at aol.com > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:48:09 -0400 > To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > Subject: Re: [USCC] Composting Carcasses in Windrows > > Go to University of Missouri/state of Missouri for publications on > composting cattle, hogs, poultry. > Jerry d'Aquin > Con-Sul, Inc. > > > In a message dated 6/29/2009 1:00:11 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > hlandgoatman at gmail.com writes: > > I have been placed in the position of composter at a large dairy farm. I > have the manure and waste feed composting fine in large windrows. I have > been trying this with our dead cows, and I am having problems. Does anyone > have any experience with this, or could point me in the right direction? > > -- > Peace, > Brent Amenell > Assistant Environmental Technician > Heartland Dairy > brent.amenell at hlcommunity.org > _______________________________________ > Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade > Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest > Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & > Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training > Courses, > Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" > Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. > Conference > Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and > Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website > www.compostingcouncil.org > or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _ > Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > _______________________________________ > This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). > (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved > > Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, > or the Board of Directors. > > Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website > at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm > > Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their > posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information > regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > > For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a > message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823281x1201398699/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= > JunestepsfooterNO62) > _______________________________________ > Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade > Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest > Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & > Organics Recycling Industry. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.0/2210 - Release Date: 06/30/09 06:10:00 From phoenix98604 at msn.com Wed Jul 1 23:38:48 2009 From: phoenix98604 at msn.com (ART KRENZEL) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:38:48 -0700 Subject: [USCC] composting carcasses in windrows In-Reply-To: <20090701160643.BTS17966.mx-02mtaout01.mts.net@wnpgmb021pw-sp03.mts.net> References: <20090701160643.BTS17966.mx-02mtaout01.mts.net@wnpgmb021pw-sp03.mts.net> Message-ID: Has anyone looked into the validity of the recent claims of prion inactivation using alkaline hydrolysis? http://www.animallab.com/articles.asp?pid=447 Efficacy In vivo infectivity studies have validated the effectiveness of the alkaline hydrolysis process for the inactivation of prioninfectivity.1 These studies established baseline parameters for the inactivation of prion infectivity and were adopted by the USDA, European Union, and Canadian Food Inspection Agencies. Potassium hydroxide (KOH) or sodium hydroxide (NaOH) in an amount sufficient to hydrolyze infected animal tissues was used to achieve prion inactivation. Extending this knowledge to whole carcasses, sufficient KOHis needed to allow for its consumption by carcass components such as fat and protein materials. Using a KOH solution of 1 molar is the current accepted working concentration for use in the complete digestion of typical animal carcasses. There is more to the article. Art Krenzel > From: wiebebh at mts.net > To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:06:43 -0500 > Subject: [USCC] composting carcasses in windrows > > As Helane Shields points out: > > - research indicates that composting temperatures do not deactivate prions and also that in the > soils used in once in soil (although > - Iowa State "Due to many unknown factors regarding the biodegradability of the prions that > cause bovine spongiform encephalopathy (commonly called BSE or "mad cow" disease), composting > should NOT be used for disposal of cattle suspected to have BSE." > - and that in the soils used by Dr. Joel Pedersen,et al, Wisconsin State, prions can survive > for years in soils, and soil can increase the infectivity by a factor of 680. > > However, the temperature is not the only potential degradation/deactivation process for prions > during composting. They are organic molecules subject to decomposition and this process needs > careful study before disregarding composting solely based on temperature. The work of Pedersen > is important but since soils are highly variable and extremely complex his results apply to the > soils he used (one should never group all soils and assume they will all react the same way). > The article you refer to (PLoS Pathogens, July 2007, Johnson et al.) of which Pedersen is a co- > author indicates that prions bound to montmorillonite increase oral infectivity by a factor > 680. Montmorillonite is not soil it is a pure clay mineral with a very high charge and a large > specific surface area and is found in some soils. Montmorillonite is known to protect soil > organic matter from degradation by soil microorganisms. In the same article they report using > 3 different actual soils and found that 2 out of 3 increased infectivity, the third was > equivalent to unbound prions. More recently, "Joel Pedersen, Fabio Russo of the University of > Naples and Christopher J. Johnson of UW-Madison, ... and co-authors Chad J. Johnson of the UW- > Madison School of Veterinary Medicine, and Judd Aiken and Debbie McKenzie of the University of > Alberta .. have found that a common soil mineral, an oxidized from of manganese known as > birnessite, can penetrate the prion's armor and degrade the protein. The new finding, ... was > reported ...in the Journal of General Virology (Jan. 2, 2009). > > That being said compost is not soil and compost itself is highly variable depending on > feedstocks. Therefore we need work looking specifically at prions and SRM/carcasses during the > composting process. One researcher working on this is Dr. Xiying Hao at the Lethbridge > Research Station of Agriculture and AgriFood Canada ( haoxy at agr.gc.ca ). I am sure if anyone > is interested they could contact Xiying directly and she would be happy to discuss this in more > detail. > > Brian Wiebe > Winnipeg, MB > > > _______________________________________ > Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > _______________________________________ > This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). > (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved > > Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. > > Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm > > Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > > For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org From cscoker at verizon.net Fri Jul 3 16:33:36 2009 From: cscoker at verizon.net (Craig Coker) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:33:36 -0400 Subject: [USCC] Lab testing of fertilzer pellets Message-ID: <0A07139AA7814DCCA49C35B8BD787841@LAPTOP> Colleagues: Can anyone recommend a commercial lab for testing manure pellets for hardness and durability, please? Preferably using testing procedures and/or apparati acceptable for use by the commercial inorganic fertilizer industry. Many thanks, Craig Craig Coker | Coker Composting & Consulting 1213 Spradlin Rd., Vinton, VA 24179 Tel.: (540) 890-1086, Fax: (540) 890-1087 Cell: (540) 874-5168, Email: cscoker at verizon.net Web: www.cokercompost.com. This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should immediately stop reading this message and delete it from your system. Any unauthorized reading, distribution, copying or other use of this communication (or its attachments) is strictly prohibited. From taylorevogt at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 01:40:18 2009 From: taylorevogt at gmail.com (Taylor Vogt) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 02:40:18 -0400 Subject: [USCC] Market Analysis of the Composting Industry Message-ID: <4d3e04f90907032340x4ec81081y3ceb84c1a32819ba@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone. I'm an undergraduate student at Pace University in Pleasantville, New York. As part of my independent study for my sophomore year I'm working on a market analysis of the composting industry. I am hoping to gather data on a national, regional and local (metro New York City) basis. Since composting is such a vitally integral process to bridging the gap between an excess of waste and a lack of food, the future of the composting industry is of extreme importance to me. Specifically, I am trying to find answers to the following questions: 1. How big is the market for compost (in terms of volume and total sales)? 2. What historical data is available that would enable me to show growth trends? 3. Are there any volume and sales figures by key buyers by category (landscapers, nurseries, organic farmers, construction, remediation, retail, etc) - current year as well as historical so we can see which categories of buyers are using more or less over time. 4. Has anyone seen any industry projections on volume and sales? I was hoping that this data already existed, or that someone might be able to give me some leads on how to compile this data. I would really appreciate any help you could offer me. Sincerely, Taylor Vogt Pace University Class of 2012 From ff22 at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 4 10:41:11 2009 From: ff22 at bellsouth.net (Frankl Franciosi) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:41:11 -0400 Subject: [USCC] Lab testing of fertilzer pellets In-Reply-To: <0A07139AA7814DCCA49C35B8BD787841@LAPTOP> References: <0A07139AA7814DCCA49C35B8BD787841@LAPTOP> Message-ID: <004201c9fcbd$dbfc3fd0$93f4bf70$@net> Craig, Try Mars Mineral. www.marsmineral.com Mars Mineral P.O. Box 719 Mars, PA 16046 tel:724-538-3000 Frank Franciosi -----Original Message----- From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of Craig Coker Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:34 PM To: USCC Listserv Subject: [USCC] Lab testing of fertilzer pellets Colleagues: Can anyone recommend a commercial lab for testing manure pellets for hardness and durability, please? Preferably using testing procedures and/or apparati acceptable for use by the commercial inorganic fertilizer industry. Many thanks, Craig Craig Coker | Coker Composting & Consulting 1213 Spradlin Rd., Vinton, VA 24179 Tel.: (540) 890-1086, Fax: (540) 890-1087 Cell: (540) 874-5168, Email: cscoker at verizon.net Web: www.cokercompost.com. This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should immediately stop reading this message and delete it from your system. Any unauthorized reading, distribution, copying or other use of this communication (or its attachments) is strictly prohibited. _______________________________________ Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 ____________________________________________________________________________ _ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org From conor.mcgovern at rpsgroup.com Mon Jul 6 08:15:24 2009 From: conor.mcgovern at rpsgroup.com (Conor McGovern) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:15:24 +0100 Subject: [USCC] FW: Market Analysis of the Composting Industry Message-ID: Taylor, The Irish EPA did a nationwide study quantifying and qualifying the markets for municipal waste derived compost in 2002. The methodology and results presentation of that study may be useful to you. Environmental RTDI Programme 2000-2006 Assessment and Evaluation of Outlets of Compost Produced From Municipal Waste (2000-MS-6-M1) Final Report Prepared for the Environmental Protection Agency by Environment & Resource Management Ltd. Authors: Paul van der Werf, Caitr?ona Carter, Gene Browne, Mac Dara Hosty ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY An Ghn?omhaireacht um Chaomhn? Comhshaoil PO Box 3000, Johnstown Castle, Co. Wexford, Ireland It is available for download at http://www.epa.ie/downloads/pubs/research/waste/name,14254,en.html Best Regards Conor McGovern, Organics manager, Market Development Programme for waste resources, West Pier Business Campus, D?n Laoghaire, Co Dublin, Ireland. ______________________________ Switch (01) 488 2900 Direct (01) 523 9231 Fax (01) 283 5676 MDP Lo-call 1890 RECYCLE MDP Lo-call 1890 732 9253 E conor.mcgovern at rpsgroup.com W www.mdg.ie ______________________________ Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of Taylor Vogt Sent: 04 July 2009 07:40 To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Subject: [USCC] Market Analysis of the Composting Industry Hello everyone. I'm an undergraduate student at Pace University in Pleasantville, New York. As part of my independent study for my sophomore year I'm working on a market analysis of the composting industry. I am hoping to gather data on a national, regional and local (metro New York City) basis. Since composting is such a vitally integral process to bridging the gap between an excess of waste and a lack of food, the future of the composting industry is of extreme importance to me. Specifically, I am trying to find answers to the following questions: 1. How big is the market for compost (in terms of volume and total sales)? 2. What historical data is available that would enable me to show growth trends? 3. Are there any volume and sales figures by key buyers by category (landscapers, nurseries, organic farmers, construction, remediation, retail, etc) - current year as well as historical so we can see which categories of buyers are using more or less over time. 4. Has anyone seen any industry projections on volume and sales? I was hoping that this data already existed, or that someone might be able to give me some leads on how to compile this data. I would really appreciate any help you could offer me. Sincerely, Taylor Vogt Pace University Class of 2012 _______________________________________ Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 _____________________________________________________________________________ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org RPS Group Ltd is a wholly owned subsidiary of RPS Group Plc. RPS Group Ltd is the parent company in the Republic of Ireland for all Irish subsidiary companies, namely: RPS Consulting Engineers Ltd, RPS Planning & Environment Ltd, RPS Engineering Services Ltd and RPS Business and Environmental Communications Ltd. The Registered Office of each company is: Block C, Cookstown Court, Tallaght, Dublin 24, Ireland, and each company is registered at the Irish Companies Registration Office in Dublin. Details of the companies registered numbers are as follows: RPS Group Limited - Registration Number: 91911 RPS Consulting Engineers Limited - Registration Number: 161581 RPS Engineering Services Limited - Registration Number: 99795 RPS Planning & Environment Limited - Registration Number: 160191 RPS Mary Murphy Associates Limited - Registration Number: 260533 From nelsonwidell22002 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 7 10:45:34 2009 From: nelsonwidell22002 at yahoo.com (Nelson Widell) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [USCC] Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill Message-ID: <171075.27023.qm@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> from Nelson Widell Peninsula Compost Co.LLC Wilmington, Delaware --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Nelson Widell wrote: From: Nelson Widell Subject: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 2:24 PM As recently passed through the House, the Waxman -Markey Bill (HR2454) eliminates carbon offset incentives for projects that capture or avoid landfill methane emissions,including composting and anaerobic digestion. Unfortunately,this bill takes away offset opportunites for composting by forcing the EPA to regulate landfill methane emissions through "performance standards". Since the bill appears to assume that all landfill emthane emissions will be taken care of by performance standard regulations, then?there is no need to develop offset projects such as composting or anaerobic digestion related to this.? As one can imagine, the major landfill companies love this because it provides justification for sending more organics to landfills to produce more methane?gas to help pay for the increased gas collection?costs?contemplated by the proposed new EPA?capping requirements for those lanfills. This is bad news for the composting industry. I haven't heard a peep out of the USCC on this issue.Does the Composting Council have a position on this or propse to do anything about it?? From andrew.kessler at turningearthllc.com Thu Jul 9 09:36:20 2009 From: andrew.kessler at turningearthllc.com (Andrew Kessler) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:36:20 -0400 Subject: [USCC] Waxman-Markey Climate Bill In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <764C99D5-EAC5-4D36-83F3-BBEA1FAD45E1@turningearthllc.com> We very much share Nelson's concerns about this legislation. It raises a broader question - is the USCC's lobbying effort in Washington adequate or does it need to be strengthened? The policy changes that are and have taken place and the resulting legislative efforts are unprecedented in recent memory. The USCC must have a meaningful seat at the table and direct dialogue with key people in Congress and the White House. Industries related to and in many cases in competition with the organics recycling industry are clearly well represented in Washington, and we must have adequate representation to protect our interests. In addition, there are several excellent examples of fledging cleantech sectors doing an excellent job pushing their agenda in Washington and ensuring both policy and dollars are moving in their favor. For example, wind, solar, hydrogen industries have very high profiles and active efforts in Washington. The organics recycling industry must have a similarly high profile and active presence to ensure that the language to which Nelson refers does not even end up in the bill in the first place. Trying to remove language is much harder than keeping it off the page. A reactive strategy is far less effective than a proactive strategy. I applaud the USCC's leadership in many key areas and encourage the council to further dedicate resources and capital to Washington. It may well be time to form a PAC or possibly team up with other organization(s) whose interests are aligned with ours to strengthen our presence in Washington. Maybe it's time to hold the annual conference in Washington! Andrew Kessler Managing Director Turning Earth, LLC 97 Maple Wood Drive, Brewster, NY 10509 Telephone. 845 259 8400 | Facsimile. 845 622 3649 | Mobile. 917 251 5662 www.turningearthllc.com Go Green ? Think before you print On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:00 PM, compost-request at mailman.cloudnet.com wrote: Send Compost mailing list submissions to compost at mailman.cloudnet.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to compost-request at mailman.cloudnet.com You can reach the person managing the list at compost-owner at mailman.cloudnet.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Compost digest..." The National forum for those involved in the development and expansion of the composting and organics recycling industry. Conference Highlights, Registration forms, Exhibitor information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website: www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 ______________________________________________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill (Nelson Widell) From: Nelson Widell Date: July 7, 2009 11:45:34 AM EDT To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Subject: [USCC] Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill Reply-To: Compost Discussion List from Nelson Widell Peninsula Compost Co.LLC Wilmington, Delaware --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Nelson Widell wrote: From: Nelson Widell Subject: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 2:24 PM As recently passed through the House, the Waxman -Markey Bill (HR2454) eliminates carbon offset incentives for projects that capture or avoid landfill methane emissions,including composting and anaerobic digestion. Unfortunately,this bill takes away offset opportunites for composting by forcing the EPA to regulate landfill methane emissions through "performance standards". Since the bill appears to assume that all landfill emthane emissions will be taken care of by performance standard regulations, then there is no need to develop offset projects such as composting or anaerobic digestion related to this. As one can imagine, the major landfill companies love this because it provides justification for sending more organics to landfills to produce more methane gas to help pay for the increased gas collection costs contemplated by the proposed new EPA capping requirements for those lanfills. This is bad news for the composting industry. I haven't heard a peep out of the USCC on this issue.Does the Composting Council have a position on this or propse to do anything about it? _______________________________________ Join us at the US Composting Council's 17th Annual Conference & Trade Show January 26-29th, 2009 at the Westin Galleria in Houston, TX. The National forum for those involved in the development and expansion of the composting and organics recycling industry. Conference Highlights, Registration forms, Exhibitor information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website: www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 _______________________________________ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org From dan at ecocycle.org Thu Jul 9 13:33:47 2009 From: dan at ecocycle.org (Dan Matsch) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:33:47 -0600 Subject: [USCC] Waxman-Markey Climate Bill In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006201ca00c3$cca923e0$65fb6ba0$@org> We at Eco-Cycle very much concur with Andrew's comments. At a bare minimum, now is a critical time to take some basic steps to protect our markets and avoid a huge step backward, but as Andrew mentioned, the current administration should instead present a huge opportunity for us to attach carbon credits to proper composting and educate lawmakers that they should be banning organics from landfills, not encouraging further dumping by giving renewable energy credits to landfill operators for partial methane capture. Eco-Cycle, BioCycle, and the Institute for Local Self-Reliance co-authored a report last year that details the climate-changing methane emissions from landfills. It can be downloaded in various forms from http://www.stoptrashingtheclimate.org/. Dan Matsch Program Manager Eco-Cycle, Inc. 5030 Pearl St. Boulder, CO? 80301 303-444-6640, ext. 116 www.ecocycle.org dan at ecocycle.org Donate to Eco-Cycle Today! Zero Waste is essential to fighting climate change, and we need your support to make Zero Waste a way of life in our community. Make your tax-deductible donation online at www.ecocycle.org/support -----Original Message----- From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of compost-request at mailman.cloudnet.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:00 AM To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Subject: Compost Digest, Vol 64, Issue 6 ____________________________________________________________________________ __ Today's Topics: 1. Waxman-Markey Climate Bill (Andrew Kessler) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:36:20 -0400 From: Andrew Kessler Subject: [USCC] Waxman-Markey Climate Bill To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Message-ID: <764C99D5-EAC5-4D36-83F3-BBEA1FAD45E1 at turningearthllc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes We very much share Nelson's concerns about this legislation. It raises a broader question - is the USCC's lobbying effort in Washington adequate or does it need to be strengthened? The policy changes that are and have taken place and the resulting legislative efforts are unprecedented in recent memory. The USCC must have a meaningful seat at the table and direct dialogue with key people in Congress and the White House. Industries related to and in many cases in competition with the organics recycling industry are clearly well represented in Washington, and we must have adequate representation to protect our interests. In addition, there are several excellent examples of fledging cleantech sectors doing an excellent job pushing their agenda in Washington and ensuring both policy and dollars are moving in their favor. For example, wind, solar, hydrogen industries have very high profiles and active efforts in Washington. The organics recycling industry must have a similarly high profile and active presence to ensure that the language to which Nelson refers does not even end up in the bill in the first place. Trying to remove language is much harder than keeping it off the page. A reactive strategy is far less effective than a proactive strategy. I applaud the USCC's leadership in many key areas and encourage the council to further dedicate resources and capital to Washington. It may well be time to form a PAC or possibly team up with other organization(s) whose interests are aligned with ours to strengthen our presence in Washington. Maybe it's time to hold the annual conference in Washington! Andrew Kessler Managing Director Turning Earth, LLC 97 Maple Wood Drive, Brewster, NY 10509 Telephone. 845 259 8400 | Facsimile. 845 622 3649 | Mobile. 917 251 5662 www.turningearthllc.com Go Green ? Think before you print On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:00 PM, compost-request at mailman.cloudnet.com wrote: Send Compost mailing list submissions to compost at mailman.cloudnet.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to compost-request at mailman.cloudnet.com You can reach the person managing the list at compost-owner at mailman.cloudnet.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Compost digest..." The National forum for those involved in the development and expansion of the composting and organics recycling industry. Conference Highlights, Registration forms, Exhibitor information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website: www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 ____________________________________________________________________________ __ Today's Topics: 1. Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill (Nelson Widell) From: Nelson Widell Date: July 7, 2009 11:45:34 AM EDT To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Subject: [USCC] Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill Reply-To: Compost Discussion List from Nelson Widell Peninsula Compost Co.LLC Wilmington, Delaware --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Nelson Widell wrote: From: Nelson Widell Subject: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 2:24 PM As recently passed through the House, the Waxman -Markey Bill (HR2454) eliminates carbon offset incentives for projects that capture or avoid landfill methane emissions,including composting and anaerobic digestion. Unfortunately,this bill takes away offset opportunites for composting by forcing the EPA to regulate landfill methane emissions through "performance standards". Since the bill appears to assume that all landfill emthane emissions will be taken care of by performance standard regulations, then there is no need to develop offset projects such as composting or anaerobic digestion related to this. As one can imagine, the major landfill companies love this because it provides justification for sending more organics to landfills to produce more methane gas to help pay for the increased gas collection costs contemplated by the proposed new EPA capping requirements for those lanfills. This is bad news for the composting industry. I haven't heard a peep out of the USCC on this issue.Does the Composting Council have a position on this or propse to do anything about it? _______________________________________ Join us at the US Composting Council's 17th Annual Conference & Trade Show January 26-29th, 2009 at the Westin Galleria in Houston, TX. The National forum for those involved in the development and expansion of the composting and organics recycling industry. Conference Highlights, Registration forms, Exhibitor information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website: www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 _______________________________________ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________ Join us at the US Composting Council's 17th Annual Conference & Trade Show January 26-29th, 2009 at the Westin Galleria in Houston, TX. The National forum for those involved in the development and expansion of the composting and organics recycling industry. Conference Highlights, Registration forms, Exhibitor information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website: www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 _______________________________________ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org End of Compost Digest, Vol 64, Issue 6 ************************************** From Sherrianj at plano.gov Thu Jul 9 14:38:23 2009 From: Sherrianj at plano.gov (Sherrian Jones) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:38:23 -0500 Subject: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows Message-ID: Does anyone have any suggestions to discouraging buzzards from perching and digging through windrows? Since organics are evenly distributed through our windrows it is impossible to bury them entirely and we are plagued with buzzards digging through the rows every evening. Best Regards, Sherrian Jones Division Manager Texas Pure Products 972-742-0413 cell 972-390-7743 fax www.texaspureproducts.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 26176 bytes Desc: image002.png Url : http://mailman.cloudnet.com/pipermail/compost/attachments/20090709/3ab9ae4a/attachment-0001.png -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 5675 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mailman.cloudnet.com/pipermail/compost/attachments/20090709/3ab9ae4a/attachment-0001.jpe From hirschsys at aol.com Thu Jul 9 17:22:38 2009 From: hirschsys at aol.com (Myron Hirschman) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:22:38 -0500 Subject: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001101ca00e3$c507cf40$4f176dc0$@com> Sherrian, Static pile composting of the organics allows you to cover with ground yard trimmings. This will reduce the problem. Static pile composting is the favored technique among farmers for livestock mortalities, using plenty of bulking agent (often sawdust or ground wood) to reduce or prevent vector attraction. Now that you have a trained set of buzzards , housekeeping and using plenty of cover will be necessary. The next, much more expensive, step would be to either compost those materials indoors or cover those rows for 30-45 days with a tarp system. Good luck Myron Hirschman -----Original Message----- From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of Sherrian Jones Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:38 PM To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Subject: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows Does anyone have any suggestions to discouraging buzzards from perching and digging through windrows? Since organics are evenly distributed through our windrows it is impossible to bury them entirely and we are plagued with buzzards digging through the rows every evening. Best Regards, Sherrian Jones Division Manager Texas Pure Products 972-742-0413 cell 972-390-7743 fax www.texaspureproducts.com From pat at crowleyconsultants.com Thu Jul 9 21:15:01 2009 From: pat at crowleyconsultants.com (Patrick Crowley) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 20:15:01 -0600 Subject: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <59DFC09BE785408FB881A5EC9397E08A@Pats> I am puzzled. I thought Plano composted yard waste. Why would buzzards dig into your piles? Now if you were composting Longhorns in a turned pile, I could understand. The buzzards and ravens in Montana do not bother the carcass compost piles, but then they do have a thick covering of woodchips as a biofilter. Perhaps you should turn the piles more often so they do not smell rotten. Pat Crowley Crowley Consultants LLC 1935 Lucky Strike Road Helena, MT 59602 (406) 458-1935 phone and fax (406) 439-9231 cell pat at crowleyconsultants.com -----Original Message----- From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of Sherrian Jones Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:38 PM To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Subject: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows Does anyone have any suggestions to discouraging buzzards from perching and digging through windrows? Since organics are evenly distributed through our windrows it is impossible to bury them entirely and we are plagued with buzzards digging through the rows every evening. Best Regards, Sherrian Jones Division Manager Texas Pure Products 972-742-0413 cell 972-390-7743 fax www.texaspureproducts.com From cscoker at verizon.net Mon Jul 13 12:34:29 2009 From: cscoker at verizon.net (Craig Coker) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:34:29 -0400 Subject: [USCC] Estimating vegetative debris from land clearing Message-ID: <32E01B601364442F91FF63D84F3299F1@LAPTOP> Colleagues: I am trying to develop estimates of vegetative waste (tree trunks, limbs, branches, and leaves, and brush/shrubbery) from land-clearing activities in an ecology of oak savanna, scrubby oak forest, eastern redcedar, and tall grass prairie in the midwestern U.S. Has anyone come across a reasonable estimate of tonnage or yardage of vegetative debris that would result from clearing a fully wooded site for land development? If you have, please let me know and also in what ecologic region the estimate was developed in. Many thanks, Craig Craig Coker | Coker Composting & Consulting 1213 Spradlin Rd., Vinton, VA 24179 Tel.: (540) 890-1086, Fax: (540) 890-1087 Cell: (540) 874-5168, Email: cscoker at verizon.net Web: www.cokercompost.com. This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should immediately stop reading this message and delete it from your system. Any unauthorized reading, distribution, copying or other use of this communication (or its attachments) is strictly prohibited. From paul.olivier at esrint.com Mon Jul 13 14:51:52 2009 From: paul.olivier at esrint.com (Paul Olivier) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:51:52 +0700 Subject: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows In-Reply-To: <001101ca00e3$c507cf40$4f176dc0$@com> References: <001101ca00e3$c507cf40$4f176dc0$@com> Message-ID: <26982a580907131251i536f6bbdwbe22504bfd11dbab@mail.gmail.com> See comment. On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Myron Hirschman wrote: > Sherrian, > > Static pile composting of the organics allows you to cover with ground yard > trimmings. This will reduce the problem. > > Static pile composting is the favored technique among farmers for livestock > mortalities, using plenty of bulking agent (often sawdust or ground wood) > to > reduce or prevent vector attraction. > > Now that you have a trained set of buzzards , housekeeping and using plenty > of cover will be necessary. > > The next, much more expensive, step would be to either compost those > materials indoors or cover those rows for 30-45 days with a tarp system. Would something like a TopTex fleece not solve this problem? Paul Olivier > > > Good luck > > Myron Hirschman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com > [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of Sherrian Jones > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:38 PM > To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > Subject: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions to discouraging buzzards from perching and > digging through windrows? Since organics are evenly distributed through > our > windrows it is impossible to bury them entirely and we are plagued with > buzzards digging through the rows every evening. > > Best Regards, > > Sherrian Jones > > Division Manager > > Texas Pure Products > > 972-742-0413 cell > > 972-390-7743 fax > > www.texaspureproducts.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, > January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest > Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & > Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training > Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" > Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. > Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information > and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website > www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > _______________________________________ > This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). > (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved > > Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, > or the Board of Directors. > > Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website > at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm > > Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their > posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information > regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > > For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a > message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org > From Michele.Young at sanjoseca.gov Mon Jul 13 16:42:05 2009 From: Michele.Young at sanjoseca.gov (Young, Michele) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:42:05 -0700 Subject: [USCC] Looking for video training on source separation In-Reply-To: <32E01B601364442F91FF63D84F3299F1@LAPTOP> References: <32E01B601364442F91FF63D84F3299F1@LAPTOP> Message-ID: <4B7DBB32B8E0254081660CC49C2B7AFA021639D9@ex08.sjcity.net> Greetings to all, I am interested to know if any of you have created training videos for airport or other businesses to outline source separation for food wastes. San Jose is getting ready to create a video for use at our airport, and would like to see other samples. We will be happy to share our training videos once they are complete. Cheers Michele Young Turn Over an Old Leaf - Compost! Michele Young - Organics Manager City of San Jose, Environmental Services 200 E. Santa Clara St. Tower 10 San Jose, Ca 95113 (408) 975-2519 FAX (408) 292-6212 www.urbancompost.com From dmhill at aol.com Tue Jul 14 16:03:07 2009 From: dmhill at aol.com (dmhill@aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:03:07 -0400 Subject: [USCC] Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill In-Reply-To: <171075.27023.qm@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <171075.27023.qm@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CBD2DD9ED83FEA-1538-CC9@WEBMAIL-DF11.sysops.aol.com> Nelson, Andrew and others who have written on this issue, The first thing you should know is that Senator Boxer has pushed back a vote on this bill until after the senate is back from recess in September. Also, the USCC is fully aware of the shortcomings of the Waxman-Markey bill.? We are proceeding on several fronts: ???????? We are working on a position statement.? We expect to have a draft of this available for comment by next week. ???????? Some Board members with Washington contacts, either in Congress or with specific agencies, are trying to educate them on the problems and unintended outcomes of the current bill. ???????? We will look to coordinate our efforts with like-minded organizations. ???????? This will be the primary agenda item of the USCC's Legislative and Environmental Affairs Committee when we meet this Wednesday. If you are interested in participating with this committee please send me a note. ? We can?t let misguided legislation, however well-intended, setback our industry. Watch for more information soon. The Senate committees will be having their meetings as soon as they return from break, so we have to get busy NOW! David Hill Chair, Legislative & Environmental Affairs Committee -----Original Message----- From: Nelson Widell To: compost at mailman.cl oudnet.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:45 am Subject: [USCC] Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill from Nelson Widell Peninsula Compost Co.LLC Wilmington, Delaware --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Nelson Widell wrote: From: Nelson Widell Subject: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 2:24 PM As recently passed through the House, the Waxman -Markey Bill (HR2454) eliminates carbon offset incentives for projects that capture or avoid landfill methane emissions,including composting and anaerobic digestion. Unfortunately,this bill takes away offset opportunites for composting by forcing the EPA to regulate landfill methane emissions through "performance standards". Since the bill appears to assume that all landfill emthane emissions will be taken care of by performance standard regulations, then?there is no need to develop offset projects such as composting or anaerobic digestion related to this.? As one can imagine, the major landfill companies love this because it provides justification for sending more organics to landfills to produce more methane?gas to help pay for the increased gas collection?costs?contemplated by the proposed new EPA?capping requirements for those lanfills. This is bad news for the composting industry. I haven't heard a peep out of the USCC on this issue.Does the Composting Council have a position on this or propse to do anything about it?? ______________________________ _________ Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 _____________________________________________________________________________ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager20at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org From bplatt at ilsr.org Wed Jul 15 09:45:54 2009 From: bplatt at ilsr.org (Brenda Platt) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:45:54 -0400 Subject: [USCC] NH/Maine collection service providers? Message-ID: <55887b8b0907150745v2d669159v6008696d071a9eb9@mail.gmail.com> I'm collaborating with a group based in New England that is trying to get some restaurants in Portsmouth and a couple of other New Hampshire/Maine towns to compost their organic discards. There are several willing restaurants but someone to provide the collection service seems to be lacking. Can anyone point me to service providers in these states? Cheers, Brenda -- Brenda Platt Institute for Local Self-Reliance 927 15th Street, NW, 4th Fl Washington, DC 20005 202-898-1610 ext. 230 www.ilsr.org From Sherrianj at plano.gov Wed Jul 15 16:22:29 2009 From: Sherrianj at plano.gov (Sherrian Jones) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:22:29 -0500 Subject: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows In-Reply-To: <26982a580907131251i536f6bbdwbe22504bfd11dbab@mail.gmail.com> References: <001101ca00e3$c507cf40$4f176dc0$@com> <26982a580907131251i536f6bbdwbe22504bfd11dbab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you all for your excellent suggestions. We did not have a buzzard problem when we relied on static pile composting since you could just cover up the organics and wait until nature finished the composting process. The move to windrow technology decreased the timeline necessary to create quality compost ready for harvest. Now that we have started windrowing, organic products are mixed throughout the row evenly and covering it with woody material is no longer an option. We are going to start running our windrows more often, incorporate more moisture to speed up the breakdown process and perhaps get us a border collie mascot trained to chase down those buzzards (this was my personal favorite suggestion!). I'll let you all know how it comes out and thank you again for your help and advice. Best Regards, Sherrian Jones Division Manager Texas Pure Products 972-742-0413 cell 972-390-7743 fax www.texaspureproducts.com ? -----Original Message----- From: Paul Olivier [mailto:paul.olivier at esrint.com] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:52 PM To: Compost Discussion List Subject: Re: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows See comment. On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Myron Hirschman wrote: > Sherrian, > > Static pile composting of the organics allows you to cover with ground yard > trimmings. This will reduce the problem. > > Static pile composting is the favored technique among farmers for livestock > mortalities, using plenty of bulking agent (often sawdust or ground wood) > to > reduce or prevent vector attraction. > > Now that you have a trained set of buzzards , housekeeping and using plenty > of cover will be necessary. > > The next, much more expensive, step would be to either compost those > materials indoors or cover those rows for 30-45 days with a tarp system. Would something like a TopTex fleece not solve this problem? Paul Olivier > > > Good luck > > Myron Hirschman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com > [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of Sherrian Jones > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:38 PM > To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > Subject: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions to discouraging buzzards from perching and > digging through windrows? Since organics are evenly distributed through > our > windrows it is impossible to bury them entirely and we are plagued with > buzzards digging through the rows every evening. > > Best Regards, > > Sherrian Jones > > Division Manager > > Texas Pure Products > > 972-742-0413 cell > > 972-390-7743 fax > > www.texaspureproducts.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, > January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest > Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & > Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training > Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" > Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. > Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information > and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website > www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > _______________________________________ > This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). > (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved > > Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, > or the Board of Directors. > > Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website > at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm > > Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their > posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information > regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > > For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a > message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org > From Morgan.Harriman at state.ma.us Thu Jul 16 07:12:10 2009 From: Morgan.Harriman at state.ma.us (Harriman, Morgan (DEP)) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:12:10 -0400 Subject: [USCC] NH/Maine collection service providers? In-Reply-To: <55887b8b0907150745v2d669159v6008696d071a9eb9@mail.gmail.com> References: <55887b8b0907150745v2d669159v6008696d071a9eb9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6BADD16F5CAEFB4AB973AC1F1DFA6C4A035B32B8@ES-MSG-007.es.govt.state.ma.us> Massachusetts Food Waste Haulers can be viewed at: http://www.mass.gov/dep/recycle/reduce/smhauler.htm Some of them may be interested in this collaboration. Morgan Harriman Commercial Waste Reduction Planner MassDEP 617-654-6580 -----Original Message----- From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of Brenda Platt Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:46 AM To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Subject: [USCC] NH/Maine collection service providers? I'm collaborating with a group based in New England that is trying to get some restaurants in Portsmouth and a couple of other New Hampshire/Maine towns to compost their organic discards. There are several willing restaurants but someone to provide the collection service seems to be lacking. Can anyone point me to service providers in these states? Cheers, Brenda -- Brenda Platt Institute for Local Self-Reliance 927 15th Street, NW, 4th Fl Washington, DC 20005 202-898-1610 ext. 230 www.ilsr.org _______________________________________ Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 ________________________________________________________________________ _____ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org From slbarnes at barnesnursery.com Thu Jul 16 10:09:15 2009 From: slbarnes at barnesnursery.com (SharonBarnes) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:09:15 -0400 Subject: [USCC] Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill In-Reply-To: <8CBD2DD9ED83FEA-1538-CC9@WEBMAIL-DF11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20090716151234.439CCCE3A43@mx1.cloudnet.com> Dear David and all, I have wanted to comment since Nelson and Andrew both expressed their concerns with the Climate Bill that emerged from the House. Our firm is also concerned and concurs with the comments expressed so far. Thank you for your response. I am ready, willing and able to do whatever you need (including travel to Washington) when you need it. I would be glad to meet with my congressional representatives but I need to know the unified message and plan. Sharon Sharon Barnes Barnes Nursery, Inc. 3511 Cleveland Road West Huron, OH 44839 P 419-433-5525 800-421-8722 F 419-433-3555 www.barnesnursery.com -----Original Message----- From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of dmhill at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:03 PM To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Subject: Re: [USCC] Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill Nelson, Andrew and others who have written on this issue, The first thing you should know is that Senator Boxer has pushed back a vote on this bill until after the senate is back from recess in September. Also, the USCC is fully aware of the shortcomings of the Waxman-Markey bill.? We are proceeding on several fronts: ???????? We are working on a position statement.? We expect to have a draft of this available for comment by next week. ???????? Some Board members with Washington contacts, either in Congress or with specific agencies, are trying to educate them on the problems and unintended outcomes of the current bill. ???????? We will look to coordinate our efforts with like-minded organizations. ???????? This will be the primary agenda item of the USCC's Legislative and Environmental Affairs Committee when we meet this Wednesday. If you are interested in participating with this committee please send me a note. ? We can?t let misguided legislation, however well-intended, setback our industry. Watch for more information soon. The Senate committees will be having their meetings as soon as they return from break, so we have to get busy NOW! David Hill Chair, Legislative & Environmental Affairs Committee -----Original Message----- From: Nelson Widell To: compost at mailman.cl oudnet.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:45 am Subject: [USCC] Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill from Nelson Widell Peninsula Compost Co.LLC Wilmington, Delaware --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Nelson Widell wrote: From: Nelson Widell Subject: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 2:24 PM As recently passed through the House, the Waxman -Markey Bill (HR2454) eliminates carbon offset incentives for projects that capture or avoid landfill methane emissions,including composting and anaerobic digestion. Unfortunately,this bill takes away offset opportunites for composting by forcing the EPA to regulate landfill methane emissions through "performance standards". Since the bill appears to assume that all landfill emthane emissions will be taken care of by performance standard regulations, then?there is no need to develop offset projects such as composting or anaerobic digestion related to this.? As one can imagine, the major landfill companies love this because it provides justification for sending more organics to landfills to produce more methane?gas to help pay for the increased gas collection?costs?contemplated by the proposed new EPA?capping requirements for those lanfills. This is bad news for the composting industry. I haven't heard a peep out of the USCC on this issue.Does the Composting Council have a position on this or propse to do anything about it?? ______________________________ _________ Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 ____________________________________________________________________________ _ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager20at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org _______________________________________ Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 ____________________________________________________________________________ _ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org From cscoker at verizon.net Fri Jul 17 07:48:02 2009 From: cscoker at verizon.net (Craig Coker) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:48:02 -0400 Subject: [USCC] Food waste generation estimates Message-ID: <16CCA4EE7EDE4079BC472F3B88BBE7A9@LAPTOP> Colleagues: The Organics Recycling Committee of VRA, in association with the Institute for Local Self-Reliance and Virginia Tech University, have been collaborating on a project to develop a GIS model of organic waste sources and recycling opportunities in Virginia, thanks to funding provided by the RCC program in EPA Region 3. The GIS model is similar to previous efforts in PA, CT and MA and aggregates food waste generation, by type of establishment and by zip code, throughout the state. The unit waste generation figures we are using are based on Jones (2004) in Using Contemporary Archaeology and Applied Anthropology to Understand Food Loss in the American Food System, who reports on the USDA Food Loss Study, which concluded that commercial sources "lost" significant amounts of food: Fast Food Establishment 418.42 lbs/store/day (9.6% of food coming into store) Convenience Store 52.72 lbs/store/day (26.3%) Full Service Restaurant 138.19 lbs/store/day (3.1%) Supermarket 120.79 lbs/store/day (0.76%) We may have an opportunity this fall to "ground-truth" this data in the Northern Virginia region of the state, which, as you know, is a suburban area to Washington, D.C. and has a high concentration of these commercial food waste sources, along with significant institutional sources (Federal agency buildings, etc.). Does anyone know of more recent unit waste generation data for these types of food waste generators? We'd like to update the model with more accurate data, and the budget is not going to be able to handle real-world dumpster diving. Many thanks for your advice! Regards, Craig Coker Chairman, Organics Committee, VRA Craig Coker | Coker Composting & Consulting 1213 Spradlin Rd., Vinton, VA 24179 Tel.: (540) 890-1086, Fax: (540) 890-1087 Cell: (540) 874-5168, Email: cscoker at verizon.net Web: www.cokercompost.com. This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should immediately stop reading this message and delete it from your system. Any unauthorized reading, distribution, copying or other use of this communication (or its attachments) is strictly prohibited. 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From johncossham at tiscali.co.uk Fri Jul 17 14:50:19 2009 From: johncossham at tiscali.co.uk (John Cossham) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:50:19 +0100 Subject: [USCC] Food waste generation estimates References: <16CCA4EE7EDE4079BC472F3B88BBE7A9@LAPTOP> Message-ID: <86312F1231DF44DFA5371F49673D9DD9@johnslaptop> I think any estimates will be just guestimates. Based on my experiences of working in several catering establishments, abattoirs and more recently, servicing a greengrocer's shop and a supermarket, and taking all their biodegradable 'resources' for composting, I'd like to make the following observations: (and apologies for the length of this post) a)different operatives will create very different volumes of waste. When I peeled potatoes in a cafe, I cut off thin layers of skin leaving more potato for cooking and consumption. One of my colleagues would be less careful and do MUCH thicker peelings, causing perhaps 5 to 10x the volume of peelings. I've witnessed other people throwing away slightly mis-shaped vegetables which might be more difficult to prepare, whereas I have always tried to minimise waste. Same goes for in the abattoir I worked in (I'm a qualified meat inspector)... different people would be quite different in the amount of trimming done. Some are pretty slapdash, others much more careful. On a production line, the speed of different operatives may affect the amount of waste produced, as if there is a fast input at the front end, that may put stress on the people further down the line. I remember one slaughterman was so quick, I couldn't keep up with the number of guts coming down and lots more pancreas got wasted. But with a slower slaughterman, I could pull out more glands. (ahh, back in the days of insulin from pigs!) b) Now to the veg shop. In summer, there is more stuff 'going off' as the warmer temperatures increase the rate that stuff goes mouldy or limp. Different fruit and veg goes off at different rates too, so some summer fruits don't last long (peaches, raspberries) whereas winter parsnips will stay on the shelf for many days looking good and saleable. The shop I service doesn't have refrigerated displays. Some do, and may create less waste. 'My' shop doesn't produce much organic waste as it has a dedicated volunteer composter... how many shops are lucky enough to have one of those? One of the workers in the shop is good at stock rotation, another is a dunce and doesn't do it very well. More produce gets wasted when that worker is in charge for a run of days. When my greener friend is on, he'll cut off a sad cucumber end and sell a half cucumber... but when Ms. Wasteful is on, she throws away the whole thing. c) and back to the catering. Some catering establishments buy in 'ready peeled' potatoes and carrots, giving far less waste in the kitchen, but more for the wholesaler who prepares huge volumes of veg for lots of local fast food outlets. The owners of catering establishments will have half an eye on keeping costs down, wasting less, so when they are around, less gets wasted. But the underpaid workers often don't care and will waste far more, when not being watched, sometimes to 'spite' the boss and as jokes between workers. I could go on and on about my experiences and observations but won't. I just feel that trying to give crude percentages for 'all supermarkets' or 'all fast food establishments' is asking a lot, because they are all so different and circumstances change over time etc etc. But I haven't read the methodology used to produce these percentages and weights. Do contact me 'off-list' if you'd like more info on where these examples are set and for more stories! John Cossham, York, UK johncossham at tiscali.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Coker" To: "USCC Listserv" Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: [USCC] Food waste generation estimates > Colleagues: > > > > The Organics Recycling Committee of VRA, in association with the Institute > for Local Self-Reliance and Virginia Tech University, have been > collaborating on a project to develop a GIS model of organic waste sources > and recycling opportunities in Virginia, thanks to funding provided by the > RCC program in EPA Region 3. > > > > The GIS model is similar to previous efforts in PA, CT and MA and > aggregates > food waste generation, by type of establishment and by zip code, > throughout > the state. The unit waste generation figures we are using are based on > Jones (2004) in Using Contemporary Archaeology and Applied Anthropology to > Understand Food Loss in the American Food System, who reports on the USDA > Food Loss Study, which concluded that commercial sources "lost" > significant > amounts of food: > > > > Fast Food Establishment 418.42 lbs/store/day (9.6% > of > food coming into store) > > Convenience Store 52.72 lbs/store/day > (26.3%) > > Full Service Restaurant 138.19 lbs/store/day > (3.1%) > > Supermarket 120.79 lbs/store/day > (0.76%) > > > > We may have an opportunity this fall to "ground-truth" this data in the > Northern Virginia region of the state, which, as you know, is a suburban > area to Washington, D.C. and has a high concentration of these commercial > food waste sources, along with significant institutional sources (Federal > agency buildings, etc.). > > > > Does anyone know of more recent unit waste generation data for these types > of food waste generators? We'd like to update the model with more accurate > data, and the budget is not going to be able to handle real-world dumpster > diving. > > > > Many thanks for your advice! > > > > Regards, > > Craig Coker > > Chairman, Organics Committee, VRA > > > > > > Craig Coker | Coker Composting & Consulting > > 1213 Spradlin Rd., Vinton, VA 24179 > > Tel.: (540) 890-1086, Fax: (540) 890-1087 > > Cell: (540) 874-5168, Email: > cscoker at verizon.net > > Web: www.cokercompost.com. > > > > This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain legally > privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the > intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should > immediately stop reading this message and delete it from your system. Any > unauthorized reading, distribution, copying or other use of this > communication (or its attachments) is strictly prohibited. > > > > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 3768 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.17/2242 - Release Date: 07/16/09 18:00:00 From dmhill at aol.com Fri Jul 17 15:22:32 2009 From: dmhill at aol.com (dmhill@aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:22:32 -0400 Subject: [USCC] Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill In-Reply-To: <20090716151234.439CCCE3A43@mx1.cloudnet.com> Message-ID: <8CBD53372C71AEE-7C0-9C3@WEBMAIL-DC07.sysops.aol.com> Sharon and all, Thank you! I will gladly accept your gracious offer. At our board meeting today, the board ratified the USCC Position Statement regarding this pending bill. It will be published in this month's USCC Newsletter. Please be sure to look for it. Contacting your senator, Senator Barbara Boxer Chair of the Environmental and Public Works Committee and other members of this committee, as well as? (list below) may be very helpful in bring some of the shortcoming of this bill to light and possibly send it back for revision. It is important to write to them now. The senate go to recess July 31 for the month of August. If they have information in hand prior to recess, their aids will have time to review and draw up reports. This will get voted upon by mid-September. So while there is time, we need to make sure the Senators have this information for some good reading materials on their break. David Hill Chair, LE&A Committee? -----Original Message----- From: SharonBarnes To: 'Compost Discussion List' Sent: Thu, Jul 16, 2009 11:09 am Subject: Re: [USCC] Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill Dear David and all, I have wanted to comment since Nelson and Andrew both expressed their concerns with the Climate Bill that emerged from the House. Our firm is also concerned and concurs with the comments expressed so far. Thank you for your response. I am ready, willing and able to do whatever you need (including travel to Washington) when you need it. I would be glad to meet with my congressional representatives but I need to know the unified message and plan. Sharon Sharon Barnes Barnes Nursery, Inc. 3511 Cleveland Road West Huron, OH 44839 P 419-433-5525 800-421-8722 F 419-433-3555 www.barnesnursery.com -----Original Message----- From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of dmhill at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:03 PM To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Subject: Re: [USCC] Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill Nelson, Andrew and others who have written on this issue, The first thing you should know is that Senator Boxer has pushed back a vote on this bill until after the senate is back from recess in September. Also, the USCC is fully aware of the shortcomings of the Waxman-Markey bill.? We are proceeding on several fronts: ???????? We are working on a position statement.? We expect to have a draft of this available for comment by next week. ???????? Some Board members with Washington contacts, either in Congress or with specific agencies, are trying to educate them on the problems and unintended outcomes of the current bill. ???????? We will look to coordinate our efforts with like-minded organizations. ???????? This will be the primary agenda item of the USCC's Legislative and Environmental Affair s Committee when we meet this Wednesday. If you are interested in participating with this committee please send me a note. ? We can?t let misguided legislation, however well-intended, setback our industry. Watch for more information soon. The Senate committees will be having their meetings as soon as they return from break, so we have to get busy NOW! David Hill Chair, Legislative & Environmental Affairs Committee -----Original Message----- From: Nelson Widell To: compost at mailman.cl oudnet.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:45 am Subject: [USCC] Fw: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill from Nelson Widell Peninsula Compost Co.LLC Wilmington, Delaware --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Nelson Widell wrote: From: Nelson Widell Subject: Waxman-Markey Climate Bill To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 2:24 PM As recently passed through the House, the Waxman -Markey Bill (HR2454) eliminates carbon offset incentives for projects that capture or avoid landfill methane emissions,including composting and anaerobic digestion. Unfortunately,this bill takes away offset opportunites for composting by forcing the EPA to regulate landfill methane emissions through "performance standards". Since the bill appears to assume that all landfill emthane emissions will be taken care of by performance standard regulations, then?there is no need to develop offset projects such as composting or anae robic digestion related to this.? As one can imagine, the major landfill companies love this because it provides justification for sending more organics to landfills to produce more methane?gas to help pay for the increased gas collection?costs?contemplated by the proposed new EPA?capping requirements for those lanfills. This is bad news for the composting industry. I haven't heard a peep out of the USCC on this issue.Does the Composting Council have a position on this or propse to do anything about it?? ______________________________ _________ Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. 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The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 ____________________________________________________________________________ _ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Compostin g Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org _______________________________________ Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 _____________________________________________________________________________ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Coun cil (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org From kpowell at kdheks.gov Wed Jul 22 15:17:24 2009 From: kpowell at kdheks.gov (Ken Powell) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:17:24 -0500 Subject: [USCC] Percent Nitrogen in Potatoes Message-ID: <4EBB566B08AAE84F979D5E093B697050050DFD9D2D@HEWXCCLU.kdhe.state.ks.us> A potato salad factory here in Kansas had a leak in an anhydrous ammonia line that caused the need to dispose of several tons of cooked potatoes. The On-Farm Composting Handbook lists the C/N ratio as 18 but does not give either the % Nor C. Can anyone help with that number? We are working on land applying the potatoes for nutrient use. Thanks, Ken Powell Environmental Scientist Kansas Department of Health & Environment 1000 SW Jackson, Suite 320 Topeka, KS 66618 Phone 785-296-1121 Fax 785-296-1592 email kpowell at kdheks.gov web www.kdheks.gov/waste Please note my new e-mail address is kpowell at kdheks.gov [cid:image002.gif at 01CA0ADF.84022BC0] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 11748 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mailman.cloudnet.com/pipermail/compost/attachments/20090722/8f753903/image001.jpg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 2184 bytes Desc: image002.gif Url : http://mailman.cloudnet.com/pipermail/compost/attachments/20090722/8f753903/image002.gif From paul.olivier at esrint.com Wed Jul 22 16:09:39 2009 From: paul.olivier at esrint.com (Paul Olivier) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:09:39 +0700 Subject: [USCC] Percent Nitrogen in Potatoes In-Reply-To: <4EBB566B08AAE84F979D5E093B697050050DFD9D2D@HEWXCCLU.kdhe.state.ks.us> References: <4EBB566B08AAE84F979D5E093B697050050DFD9D2D@HEWXCCLU.kdhe.state.ks.us> Message-ID: <26982a580907221409s620dd16cg6895a81255834a75@mail.gmail.com> Why not do a lactic acid fermentation on this potato waste in 55 gallon drums? Once fermented, this would make a very nice hog feed. Paul Olivier On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Ken Powell wrote: > > A potato salad factory here in Kansas had a leak in an anhydrous ammonia > line that caused the need to dispose of several tons of cooked potatoes. > The On-Farm Composting Handbook lists the C/N ratio as 18 but does not give > either the % Nor C. Can anyone help with that number? We are working on > land applying the potatoes for nutrient use. > > Thanks, > > Ken Powell > Environmental Scientist > Kansas Department of Health & Environment > 1000 SW Jackson, Suite 320 > Topeka, KS 66618 > Phone 785-296-1121 Fax 785-296-1592 > email kpowell at kdheks.gov > web www.kdheks.gov/waste > > Please note my new e-mail address is kpowell at kdheks.gov kpowell at kdheks.gov> > [cid:image002.gif at 01CA0ADF.84022BC0] > > > _______________________________________ > Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, > January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest > Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & > Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training > Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" > Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. > Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information > and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website > www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > _______________________________________ > This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). > (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved > > Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, > or the Board of Directors. > > Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website > at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm > > Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their > posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information > regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > > For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a > message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org > > From hirschsys at aol.com Wed Jul 22 17:19:30 2009 From: hirschsys at aol.com (Myron Hirschman) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:19:30 -0500 Subject: [USCC] Percent Nitrogen in Potatoes In-Reply-To: <4EBB566B08AAE84F979D5E093B697050050DFD9D2D@HEWXCCLU.kdhe.state.ks.us> References: <4EBB566B08AAE84F979D5E093B697050050DFD9D2D@HEWXCCLU.kdhe.state.ks.us> Message-ID: <000301ca0b1a$7c54d4f0$74fe7ed0$@com> Ken http://info.ag.uidaho.edu/pdf/CIS/CIS0814.pdf This has the nutrient info on land application of potatoes courtesy of Dr. William Bohl (an Iowa State grad) currently with the Extension Service in Idaho. Good luck Myron H -----Original Message----- From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Powell Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:17 PM To: 'Compost Discussion List' Subject: [USCC] Percent Nitrogen in Potatoes A potato salad factory here in Kansas had a leak in an anhydrous ammonia line that caused the need to dispose of several tons of cooked potatoes. The On-Farm Composting Handbook lists the C/N ratio as 18 but does not give either the % Nor C. Can anyone help with that number? We are working on land applying the potatoes for nutrient use. Thanks, Ken Powell Environmental Scientist Kansas Department of Health & Environment 1000 SW Jackson, Suite 320 Topeka, KS 66618 Phone 785-296-1121 Fax 785-296-1592 email kpowell at kdheks.gov web www.kdheks.gov/waste Please note my new e-mail address is kpowell at kdheks.gov [cid:image002.gif at 01CA0ADF.84022BC0] From mikepnevin at yahoo.ca Wed Jul 22 21:13:01 2009 From: mikepnevin at yahoo.ca (Michael Nevin) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows In-Reply-To: <59DFC09BE785408FB881A5EC9397E08A@Pats> Message-ID: <107523.9085.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi - I was just reading that much of Texas is suffering severe drought. Would this be true of the Plano, TX area? If so, and there is drought, would this affect the buzzard's normal feeding forcing them to look elsewhere for food? Just a thought. Cheers, Mike in Toronto --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Patrick Crowley wrote: From: Patrick Crowley Subject: Re: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows To: "'Compost Discussion List'" Received: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 10:15 PM I am puzzled.? I thought Plano composted yard waste.? Why would buzzards dig into your piles?? Now if you were composting Longhorns in a turned pile, I could understand.? The buzzards and ravens in Montana do not bother the carcass compost piles, but then they do have a thick covering of woodchips as a biofilter.? Perhaps you should turn the piles more often so they do not smell rotten. Pat Crowley Crowley Consultants LLC 1935 Lucky Strike Road Helena, MT 59602 (406) 458-1935 phone and fax (406) 439-9231 cell pat at crowleyconsultants.com -----Original Message----- From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of Sherrian Jones Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:38 PM To: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Subject: [USCC] Eliminating Buzzards from windrows ? Does anyone have any suggestions to discouraging buzzards from perching and digging through windrows?? Since organics are evenly distributed through our windrows it is impossible to bury them entirely and we are plagued with buzzards digging through the rows every evening. Best Regards, Sherrian Jones Division Manager Texas Pure Products 972-742-0413 cell 972-390-7743 fax www.texaspureproducts.com ? _______________________________________ Join us as the US Composting Council's 18th Annual Conference & Trade Show, January 24-27, 2010 at the Wyndham Orlando Resort, FL. The Largest Conference & Exhibition in North America for the Composting, Wood Waste, & Organics Recycling Industry. The Most Comprehensive Program of Training Courses, Educational & Technical Presentations, and Facility Tours & "Live" Equipment Demonstrations at the Disney/Reedy Creek Composting Facility. Conference Highlights & Program, Registration forms, Exhibitor Information and Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 _____________________________________________________________________________ Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost _______________________________________ This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, or the Board of Directors. Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From jmrivin at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 12:20:12 2009 From: jmrivin at gmail.com (jonathan rivin) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:20:12 -0500 Subject: [USCC] reference: nitrogen content of potatoe Message-ID: ken try this reference for nitrogen content, which can be accessed online: verma, sharma and joshi (1975). relation between specific gravity, starch and nitrogen content of potato tubers. potato research. 18(1):120-22. Jonathan M. Rivin, PhD UWI Extension Specialist Solid and Hazardous Waste Education Center Stevens Point, WI 715-346-2793 jonathan.rivin at uwsp.edu On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:00 PM, wrote: > Send Compost mailing list submissions to > compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > compost-request at mailman.cloudnet.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > compost-owner at mailman.cloudnet.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Compost digest..." > > The National forum for those involved in the development and expansion of > the composting and organics recycling industry. > Conference Highlights, Registration forms, Exhibitor information and > Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website: > www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Percent Nitrogen in Potatoes (Ken Powell) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Ken Powell > To: 'Compost Discussion List' > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:17:24 -0500 > Subject: [USCC] Percent Nitrogen in Potatoes > > A potato salad factory here in Kansas had a leak in an anhydrous ammonia > line that caused the need to dispose of several tons of cooked potatoes. > The On-Farm Composting Handbook lists the C/N ratio as 18 but does not give > either the % Nor C. Can anyone help with that number? We are working on > land applying the potatoes for nutrient use. > > Thanks, > > Ken Powell > Environmental Scientist > Kansas Department of Health & Environment > 1000 SW Jackson, Suite 320 > Topeka, KS 66618 > Phone 785-296-1121 Fax 785-296-1592 > email kpowell at kdheks.gov > web www.kdheks.gov/waste > > Please note my new e-mail address is kpowell at kdheks.gov kpowell at kdheks.gov> > [cid:image002.gif at 01CA0ADF.84022BC0] > > > _______________________________________ > Join us at the US Composting Council's 17th Annual Conference & Trade Show > January 26-29th, 2009 at the Westin Galleria in Houston, TX. > The National forum for those involved in the development and expansion of > the composting and organics recycling industry. > Conference Highlights, Registration forms, Exhibitor information and > Sponsorship Opportunities available at the USCC website: > www.compostingcouncil.org or call the USCC at 631.737.4931 > _______________________________________ > Compost maillist - compost at mailman.cloudnet.com > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > _______________________________________ > This list is a service provided by the US Composting Council (USCC). > (c) Copyright 2004 United States Composting Council - All rights reserved > > Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the USCC, the Foundation, > or the Board of Directors. > > Non-members of USCC are encouraged to join the Council through its website > at: http://www.compostingcouncil.org/membership.cfm > > Members posting CC copies to the list and other addresses may have their > posting privileges suspended. For discussion list policies and information > regarding subscribing, unsubscribing, digest or other options, go to: > http://mailman.cloudnet.com/mailman/listinfo/compost > > For additional help in unsubcribing or to report bugs and problems, send a > message to the List Manager at compostlistmanager at compostingcouncil.org > From gbrec at comcast.net Fri Jul 24 19:03:59 2009 From: gbrec at comcast.net (Gary Bright) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:03:59 -0400 Subject: [USCC] Hog manure Message-ID: <20090725000400.8E572F3DC56@mx1.cloudnet.com> Could an "expert" share with me the menu mix that works best when composting hog manure. What percentage of carbon to nitrogen works best? Gary from Michigan From meirlip at seliyahu.org.il Thu Jul 30 13:56:42 2009 From: meirlip at seliyahu.org.il (Meir Lipshatz) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:56:42 +0300 Subject: [USCC] FW: Compost Digest, Vol 64, Issue 15 Message-ID: <751F1589B2544203A72483FFCC846B13@mazkir> _____ 30 July 2009 Dear Fellow Compost Producers , Our Company has been offered , the remains of cow manure that has been used to produce energy . Does anyone have experience and knowledge of producing compost from this source. Can it be done and economically viable. Await your thoughts and advise , Sincerely Meir Lipshatz Compost Kibbutz Sde Eliyahu , Israel _____ From: us_compostingcouncil [mailto:gbuscc at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:41 PM To: Meir Lipshatz Subject: Re: Compost Digest, Vol 64, Issue 15 You have been subscribed to the listserve forum. Simple write your questions and/or comments in an email and address it ONLY to: compost at mailman.cloudnet.com Thank you Garrett Buckner USCC _____ From: Meir Lipshatz To: compost-owner at mailman.cloudnet.com Cc: memberservices at compostingcouncil.org Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:30:58 AM Subject: RE: Compost Digest, Vol 64, Issue 15 Dear Sir , I have been receiving for the last month your emails concerning compost. As a compost producer I have a question that I wish to pose to the learned forum. Sincerely Meir Lipshatz K Sde Eliyahu , Israel 29 July 2009 Dear Fellow Compost Producers , Our Company has been offered , the remains of cow manure that has been used to produce energy . Does anyone have experience and knowledge of producing compost from this source. Can it be done and economically viable. Await your thoughts and advise , Sincerely Meir Lipshatz Compost Kibbutz Sde Eliyahu , Israel -----Original Message----- From: compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com [mailto:compost-bounces at mailman.cloudnet.com] On Behalf Of compost-owner at mailman.cloudnet.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:33 PM To: meirlip at seliyahu.org.il Subject: RE: Compost Digest, Vol 64, Issue 15 This is an automatic email. Your message is being automatically rejected either because you have not registered or your email reply address does not match one in our system's registry. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list manager at. Thank you From WCARTER at tceq.state.tx.us Thu Jul 30 14:37:57 2009 From: WCARTER at tceq.state.tx.us (William (Bill) Carter) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:37:57 -0500 Subject: [USCC] FW: Compost Digest, Vol 64, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: <751F1589B2544203A72483FFCC846B13@mazkir> References: <751F1589B2544203A72483FFCC846B13@mazkir> Message-ID: <4A71B046.4C77.0044.0@tceq.state.tx.us> Dear Meir, If you refer to cow manure that has been run through anaerobic digestion for methane recovery, I believe the answer is yes. A large methane recovery system co-located with a compost facility in Texas and supplied its residue for composting. The residue actually had a much higher organic matter content than the raw manure, in spite of the conversion of much of the organic matter into methane, because of the initial separation of inert material (mostly sand & soil) from the manure prior to digestion. The initial experience seemed promising and the odor was minimal (less than raw manure). I'm not aware of the long-term results of the composting of this material. Bill Carter Nonpoint Source Team MC 234 Texas Commission on Environmental Quality P.O. Box 13087 Austin, TX 78711-3087 Phone: 512-239-6771 Fax: 512-239-4410 wcarter at tceq.state.tx.us P Please consider whether it is necessary to print this e-mail >>> "Meir Lipshatz" 7/30/2009 1:56 PM >>> _____ 30 July 2009 Dear Fellow Compost Producers , Our Company has been offered , the remains of cow manure that has been used to produce energy . Does anyone have experience and knowledge of producing compost from this source. Can it be done and economically viable. Await your thoughts and advise , Sincerely Meir Lipshatz Compost Kibbutz Sde Eliyahu , Israel _____ From: us_compostingcouncil [mailto:gbuscc at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:41 PM To: Meir Lipshatz Subject: Re: Compost Digest, Vol 64, Issue 15 Meir Lipshatz Compost Kibbutz Sde Eliyahu , Israel