[USCC] bioenergyconversion.com

[John Bentley]

Ken
Thanks for your input. As I had mentioned to Cary my concern was competition
for inputs like green waste, manure etc. vs. composting.
John 

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From: KPowell at kdhe.state.ks.us [mailto:KPowell at kdhe.state.ks.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:28 PM
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John and Cary,

Since the other half of my job is working with the tire industry the process
looks very similar to pyrolysis.  Amazingly, none of the supporters of
pyrolysis want to call it that anymore.  They seem to like to disguise it
using other terminology.  The key terminology is closed loop, heat exchange,
bio gas, carbon black or activated carbon and other user defined terms.

My thoughts are be very careful of anyone proposing this type of operation.
So far none have been commercially viable after government funding has run
out.


Ken Powell
Environmental Scientist
SW Processing Facilities Unit
Kansas Department of Health & Environment Bureau of Waste Management 1000 SW
Jackson, Suite 320 Topeka, KS  66612-1366
Phone: (785) 296-1121
Fax: (785) 296-1592
E-mail  kpowell at kdhe.state.ks.us
www.kdheks.gov/waste



                                                                           
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Cary
Yes I am still around. We continue to expand our line and Earth & Turf still
grew in 2008 despite the down turn. My concern with the process was that it
would divert green waste and manures away from composting. As you know I
have been a supporter of composting for a number of years and am conerned
with the quality of our soils, the reduction of the use of chemicals and the
preservation of clean water. I wasn't sure if this process would reduce the
availabilty of good compost.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Cary Oshins [mailto:cary.oshins at compostingcouncil.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [USCC] bioenergyconversion.com

Hi John,

Good to see you still lurking around on the list!

No I have not heard of them and their website doesn't tell a whole lot.
Their products are energy and "activated carbon". Activated carbon is a
different market than compost, not really a competitor that I know of. I
have requested more info from their website, www.bioenergyconversion.com

Cary



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Cary

Have you ever heard of Bioenergycoversion.com. It seems like they are making

a carbon type product. Will tis take away from Composting?

John Bentley

Earth & Turf Products LLC